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>> you may have overlooked the fact that for the last few weeks i've been joe biden. so -- >> mr. olson has been playing the part of joe biden in paul ryan's debate prep, which will help paul ryan get better at debating which will help him become vice president which would be bad for gay rights. right? >> or in my attempt to persuade ryan on this issue. don't understate the possibility that dialogue and talking about these issues makes a difference. not just independents and not just democrats but republicans, too. the tides are changing. attitudes are changing. and the way to change those attitudes is dialogue. and the way to change those attitudes is to talk to people about the fundamental right and the way to deal with republicans in my opinion is to say we are the party of abraham lincoln. let's not forget that. what are these -- we say that. let's live up to that. let's think about our principles here. what is decency and privacy and respect? can't talk about what happens in debate preparation but when those issues, if they're issues, they come up in the preparation because t
>> you may have overlooked the fact that for the last few weeks i've been joe biden. so -- >> mr. olson has been playing the part of joe biden in paul ryan's debate prep, which will help paul ryan get better at debating which will help him become vice president which would be bad for gay rights. right? >> or in my attempt to persuade ryan on this issue. don't understate the possibility that dialogue and talking about these issues makes a difference. not just independents and...
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biden. it's good to have you here. jared, i start with you. as we look at these numbers, is this a true game changer for the president? >> it certainly helps. i mean, this month's decline in the unemployment rate that you have been talking about from 8.1% down to 7.8%, that's the good kind of decline in unemployment because it came from a lot more people getting jobs. if you recall back last month, i was sitting in this chair telling you that the decline in unemployment from 8.3% to 8.1% was illusory. it tells you, as i said, more people came into the job market and got jobs. but it also tells you that the monthly surveys are volatile. however, i think there's other evidence in this report, perhaps we can get into it, that shows some momentum moving in the right direction. the pace of employment growth appears to be accelerating in the payroll survey as well. >> ron, i want to ask you about jack welch's tweet about the books basically being cooked. you know, he's a ge pioneer. we know him we
biden. it's good to have you here. jared, i start with you. as we look at these numbers, is this a true game changer for the president? >> it certainly helps. i mean, this month's decline in the unemployment rate that you have been talking about from 8.1% down to 7.8%, that's the good kind of decline in unemployment because it came from a lot more people getting jobs. if you recall back last month, i was sitting in this chair telling you that the decline in unemployment from 8.3% to 8.1%...
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joe biden was saying we are proud of the fact we are socking it to the businesses and to the rich people. i find it somewhat offensive, actually. >> is there any way when you raise people's taxes by $1 trillion the middle class is unaffected? >>guest: it is interesting if you look at congressional budget office report and i seldom cite the c.b.o., they say that if you do the fiscal cliff and the huge tax increase next year we don't have less than percent unemployment, we go up to over 9 percent unemployment, a double dip recession. that is not moving failure, that is moving backward. >> today we learned the 2012 deficit had exceeded, now, $1.1 trillion. more than $1 trillion, four years in a row. >>guest: what a record. that means, and we have talked about this of with, four straight years of $1 trillion plus gifts. if you total them up over the four years it is $5 trillion. the first year of that i blame on president bush. the last three years have been president obama. don't forget, another one of the president's key campaign promises back in 2008, remember that? he said i will cut thi
joe biden was saying we are proud of the fact we are socking it to the businesses and to the rich people. i find it somewhat offensive, actually. >> is there any way when you raise people's taxes by $1 trillion the middle class is unaffected? >>guest: it is interesting if you look at congressional budget office report and i seldom cite the c.b.o., they say that if you do the fiscal cliff and the huge tax increase next year we don't have less than percent unemployment, we go up to...
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>> increased pressure on joe biden. for democrats to get in a very good performance and you ent up looking, paul rye sn a very well-spoken person, although this is going to be his first debate on a stage like this. joe biden has done this many times before. he actually might have a little advantage. as we all know sometimes joe biden is saying things that actually draw attention. so i do think that this is going to be a must-see debate for the country, and, of course, the obama campaign is hoping for a little better performance. >> very gracious way to talk about things that the vice president said in the past. mark murray, thank you very much. >> thanks, alex. >>> in this week's office politic, christy todd whitman, first to defeat an uncome bent governor in an election. today new jersey's only female governor. talks chris christie and her role about bringing a very famous dog to the white house. first we talk about the female vote. >> do you think that the gop is at risk of losing the female vote for a generation pote
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. >> republicans think that paul ryan will just clean joe biden's clock. they think there is no contest here -- >> greta: i wouldn't think that. boy, i wouldn't think that. >> it's a problem to underestimate joe biden. he is a gaffe a minute sometimes. but he does have a way of connecting with mitts class and lower-middle class, working family, voters. he has a way to make an emotional connection with them and the republicans should watch out. >> greta: have you spent a lot of time in ohio. the numbers are closing in ohio. >> they look better after the debate. but we haven't had enough days for the tracking polls to show the full effect of the debate. but sam's right, the debates are taking over for the schedule now. we have the next one on the 11th, vice-presidential and then -- we are talking about that until the 16th and the next one is the 62nd. so the debates are the story the next 10, 15 days. >> 30 seconds left. from reuters, bad news from obam a1 in 5 said it made them feel more negative about him after the debate. >> that's how they will feel unti
. >> republicans think that paul ryan will just clean joe biden's clock. they think there is no contest here -- >> greta: i wouldn't think that. boy, i wouldn't think that. >> it's a problem to underestimate joe biden. he is a gaffe a minute sometimes. but he does have a way of connecting with mitts class and lower-middle class, working family, voters. he has a way to make an emotional connection with them and the republicans should watch out. >> greta: have you spent a...
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i'm pretty confident that joe biden will be the attack dog in this. i think he's going to try to pin ryan down on a lot of specifics. ryan had a little bit of trouble answering those specifics in various interviews up until this point. i don't think that's shocking to anybody on this network for sure, but he's going to have -- >> oh! >> he's going to have a chance to look sharp, to look strong, and to answer the vice president and to outline the plan that mitt romney or undergird the plan that mitt romney talked about. the problem is i don't think he's going to be able to levy things and go unchallenged. biden is going to hold his feet to the fire, no question. >> now, let me show you what happens when paul ryan runs out on a sean hannity interview early. take a listen, both of you. >> thank you for being with us, governor romney stays with us. >> thanks. we've got 12,000 people out here excited to see us. >> 12,000 people, we only have 4 million people that want to see you so we're competing. >> did the numbers guy really trade 4 million people and 1
i'm pretty confident that joe biden will be the attack dog in this. i think he's going to try to pin ryan down on a lot of specifics. ryan had a little bit of trouble answering those specifics in various interviews up until this point. i don't think that's shocking to anybody on this network for sure, but he's going to have -- >> oh! >> he's going to have a chance to look sharp, to look strong, and to answer the vice president and to outline the plan that mitt romney or undergird...
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i supported her when she did run, yes. >> joe biden is going to debate this week. how is he going to do? >> great. >> thank you. good job. you got all these pictures up in jersey. bring it around the country and to the newseum. when we return, thank you. let me finish with the people questioning today's great jobless numbers down to 7.8 and some people can't stand it being that good. you're watching "hardball" the place for politics. ones buy now broadway show megapixels place to sleep little roadster war and peace deep sea diving ninja app hipster glasses 5% cash back sign up to get 5% everywhere online through december. only from discover. [ male announcer ] why do more emergency workers everywhere trust duracell...?? duralock power preserve. locks in power for up to 10 years in storage. now...guaranteed. duracell with duralock. trusted everywhere. >>> let me finish with this. let's look at this great jobless
i supported her when she did run, yes. >> joe biden is going to debate this week. how is he going to do? >> great. >> thank you. good job. you got all these pictures up in jersey. bring it around the country and to the newseum. when we return, thank you. let me finish with the people questioning today's great jobless numbers down to 7.8 and some people can't stand it being that good. you're watching "hardball" the place for politics. ones buy now broadway show...
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of course, a lot of big names didn't show up to the event joe biden, nancy pelosi, president obama. no, he just didn't -- >> get on the reality page. i'm sorry, he sucked. he looked tired. he had trouble getting his answers out. look like he took my million and spent it all on weed. >> mitt romney on the other hand seemed down right human. he was relaxed before the debate and this is mitt and his wife ann and his son playing a rousing game of jenga. look how much fun they are having. have you ever seen a person enjoy watching another person play jenga. he's having a dynamite time. >> 7.8% lowest numbers in three years. natural republican today said it was a lie a fake and a conspiracy. they said unemployed people are claiming they have jobs to make obama look good. i swear, so we can stay in power and give them more unemployment checks that they will never get because they say they have jobs. poor people, you are good. you are good. you are, oh, i can't even follow that. >> thanks for starting your morning with us. we have much more ahead on "cnn saturday morning" which starts right
of course, a lot of big names didn't show up to the event joe biden, nancy pelosi, president obama. no, he just didn't -- >> get on the reality page. i'm sorry, he sucked. he looked tired. he had trouble getting his answers out. look like he took my million and spent it all on weed. >> mitt romney on the other hand seemed down right human. he was relaxed before the debate and this is mitt and his wife ann and his son playing a rousing game of jenga. look how much fun they are...
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yeah. >> let me -- last word, joe biden is going to debate this week. how is he going to do? >> he's going to do great. >> bonnie lautenberg and senator blanche lincoln, thanks for coming on. plet me finish with the people who are questioning the great jobless numbers, down to 7.8 and some people can't stand it being that good. you're watching "hardball," a place for politics. with the ability to improve roi through seo you're watching "hardball," a place for politics. some people g that good. you're watching "hardbal" a place for politics. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle... and go. you can even take a full-size or above, and still pay the mid-size price. i'm going b-i-g. [ male announcer ] good choice business pro. good choice. go national. go like a pro. we create easy to use, powerful trading tools for all. look at these streaming charts! they're totally customizable and they let you visualize what might happen next. that's genius! strategies, chains, positions. we put 'em all on one screen! could we make placing a t
yeah. >> let me -- last word, joe biden is going to debate this week. how is he going to do? >> he's going to do great. >> bonnie lautenberg and senator blanche lincoln, thanks for coming on. plet me finish with the people who are questioning the great jobless numbers, down to 7.8 and some people can't stand it being that good. you're watching "hardball," a place for politics. with the ability to improve roi through seo you're watching "hardball," a place...
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foot-in-my--mouth, joe biden, they can read pretty well on the script. but had they go off script, they say some pretty bizarre things. >> we are reallying around a new economic patriotism rooted in the core belief that built this country, that believes that the economy grows when we have a strong and thriving middle class, and everybody who works hard as has a shot. >> you know the phrase you always use, obam and biden want to raise taxes by a trillion dollars? guess what? yes we do n. one regard, we want to let that trillion-dollar tax cut expire so the middle class doesn't have to bear the burden of all that money going to the super wealthy? >> joe wasn't looking at the teleprompter. that's what happens when the teleprompter fails. joining me, charles krauthammer. you know, i remember, during the debate, walter mondale said, i'm admitting i am going to raise your taxes. that didn't work out that well, if i remember correctly, charles krauthammer? >> well, that is very true. i do believe your prompter theory. but i want to say, just to be safe, you nev
foot-in-my--mouth, joe biden, they can read pretty well on the script. but had they go off script, they say some pretty bizarre things. >> we are reallying around a new economic patriotism rooted in the core belief that built this country, that believes that the economy grows when we have a strong and thriving middle class, and everybody who works hard as has a shot. >> you know the phrase you always use, obam and biden want to raise taxes by a trillion dollars? guess what? yes we...
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listen, joe biden right now is the republican secret weapon. this past week he talked about the fact that the past four years have been brutal for the middle class, who's been buried under obama leadership. then he promised a trillion-dollar tax increase a couple of days ago. we want more biden as republicans. more biden. >> don't underestimate joe biden and his decades of serving washington and knowing washington. paul ryan, i wish you the best of luck. >> and joe biden is a great man and we wish him well, and we hope he keeps talking a lot. >> that's your "morning joe" political wrap. >> and you can catch joe and mika weekdays at 6:00 a.m. eastern. with more now, here's lester. >>> they mentioned the latest unemployment numbers. is the economy really recovering? we're here with audio look inside the numbers. help me understand this now. the actual number of jobs added in september was not a huge increase, but we still saw this drop of the overall rate to 7.8%. how does that work? >> two big things. first of all, 86,000 more jobs were added in
listen, joe biden right now is the republican secret weapon. this past week he talked about the fact that the past four years have been brutal for the middle class, who's been buried under obama leadership. then he promised a trillion-dollar tax increase a couple of days ago. we want more biden as republicans. more biden. >> don't underestimate joe biden and his decades of serving washington and knowing washington. paul ryan, i wish you the best of luck. >> and joe biden is a great...
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big tax hikes and big deficits. >> joe biden was talking about letting the bush tax cuts expire for the wealthiest americans. and if you're serious about cutting the deficit, larry, you got to do something about increasing revenue. you conservatives have to make up your mind. do you want to grow the economy or do you want to cut the deficit? you can't do both if you're not willing to raise some revenue. the problem is that mitt romney got on stage on wednesday and he was a totally different mitt romney from the severely conservative mitt romney who has been running for president on the gop ticket for the past few months. and on the issue of taxes, on the issue of preexisting conditions, on the issue of regulations, he reversed himself on stage. and shame on president obama for not challenging him on that and shame on jim lehrer for not pushing him on that. >> the way that you bring in more revenue, and mitt romney said this beautifully, you put more people to work be you give them jobs. you don't bring more revenue in by putting one american against another. >> you mean like the 47%. >>
big tax hikes and big deficits. >> joe biden was talking about letting the bush tax cuts expire for the wealthiest americans. and if you're serious about cutting the deficit, larry, you got to do something about increasing revenue. you conservatives have to make up your mind. do you want to grow the economy or do you want to cut the deficit? you can't do both if you're not willing to raise some revenue. the problem is that mitt romney got on stage on wednesday and he was a totally...
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. >> my advice is for joe biden. do not try to overwhen sate by going in there charging like the bulls of pam plo na in your debate. the only thing that may be worse than an overly passive barack obama is an overly aggressive joe biden. >> a bull in a china shop maybe. >> maybe. listen, if he's hard to control when he's on script, just imagine him unscripted in a debate. >> but the american people still like him. >> yeah. >> still like him. >> he's a likable guy. >> he's a regular joe. >> i think all republicans should love him because he is the gift that keeps on giving. >> so is paul ryan to some extent. go ahead, governor. >> it's been exactly one year since steve jobs passing. and my unsolicited advice today is for all of the mavericks in america, all the people that walked against the crowd, all the people who disagree with everybody in the room, everybody in a classroom that says i don't agree with what's going on here today, the mavericks have made america great. if we lose our mavericks, we lose our edge. thi
. >> my advice is for joe biden. do not try to overwhen sate by going in there charging like the bulls of pam plo na in your debate. the only thing that may be worse than an overly passive barack obama is an overly aggressive joe biden. >> a bull in a china shop maybe. >> maybe. listen, if he's hard to control when he's on script, just imagine him unscripted in a debate. >> but the american people still like him. >> yeah. >> still like him. >> he's a...
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jared bernstein, former advisor to vice president joe biden is with us. mr. bernstein, always nice to see you. >> thank you. >> let's talk first about the most recent story we talked about, and that is the idea that the administration is effectively giving a pass on a law to companies that might otherwise be required to give 60 days of notice that layoffs were impending. senator mccain calls it a blatant violation of the law. do you agree? >> no, i disagree. by the way, i'm not going to say there is not some politics in here. of course, there is. but i thought eamon javers gave a very good and complete explanation of what's going on here, and certainly senator mccain amped up the politics. facts are, that absent a certainty that layoffs are coming, there is no requirement to send out warn act notices. and by the way -- most people -- and i would argue the markets -- believe that the fiscal cliff issues will be resolved. now, that's not a sure thing. but i would argue that that is the way of most people's perspective on this. >> but it's not merely a waiver on
jared bernstein, former advisor to vice president joe biden is with us. mr. bernstein, always nice to see you. >> thank you. >> let's talk first about the most recent story we talked about, and that is the idea that the administration is effectively giving a pass on a law to companies that might otherwise be required to give 60 days of notice that layoffs were impending. senator mccain calls it a blatant violation of the law. do you agree? >> no, i disagree. by the way, i'm...
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you said about joe biden he's the gift that keeps on giving. are you hoping that he's going to be giving a sprinkling of presents back to you guys? >> i don't know but i hope he repeats this latest one, where the middle class america has been buried for the last four years. right, joe. in fact, you might use that in your opening statement. by the way, personally, i've got to tell you something, piers. personally, joe biden and i have been friends for many, many years. i enjoy his company. he's a very good guy, personally, so it's not as if i -- but honest to god, he still is a heartbeat away from the presidency and when some of the things he says, you know, you're slack-jawed. but i think he'll be well-prepared for this debate. i would remind you, he didn't do that well against sarah palin, so -- but also, paul ryan is a real policy wonk. he knows all the details. so if i were advising paul ryan, and i am not, they just haven't asked for it, i would say be careful that you don't come across as somebody who gets down into the weeds about omb num
you said about joe biden he's the gift that keeps on giving. are you hoping that he's going to be giving a sprinkling of presents back to you guys? >> i don't know but i hope he repeats this latest one, where the middle class america has been buried for the last four years. right, joe. in fact, you might use that in your opening statement. by the way, personally, i've got to tell you something, piers. personally, joe biden and i have been friends for many, many years. i enjoy his company....
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how do you think he's going to fare against joe biden? he's a lot younger, doesn't have as much debate experience. >> that's not true. they're both members of congress. they have a lot of debate -- that's what you do in congress whether it's in committee or on the floor. i think they will both be more skilled, frankly, than either of the two presidential candidates who did not have that kind of a background. so i'm not sure that they don't know how to do it. >> here's the difference, though, with all due respect. there's a big difference. we have 67 million people watching on wednesday night. we're going to have millions of people watching certainly on thursday night. that's a lot different than watching c-span coverage in congress of the floor, you know? >> but you don't stand behind a podium and see 68 million people. you stand behind the podium and see who's in the hall and the guy standing next to you. i don't think that matters at all. >> it is a little bit different in the sense that generally debate on the floor is a much more civi
how do you think he's going to fare against joe biden? he's a lot younger, doesn't have as much debate experience. >> that's not true. they're both members of congress. they have a lot of debate -- that's what you do in congress whether it's in committee or on the floor. i think they will both be more skilled, frankly, than either of the two presidential candidates who did not have that kind of a background. so i'm not sure that they don't know how to do it. >> here's the...
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i like joe biden. is he a good, decent man. i think people sort of say you know what? that's just joe. you have got to love the guy for being candid and honest. i will tell you what i do love, joe leads with his heart. i give him credit for that. it's kind of refreshing in politics who see somebody who has a heart. he speaks it. you may not agree with what he said. have you got to at least accept the fact that here is a guy who truly does, i think, connect to people. i give him that. >> he is learnly going to make the vice presidential debate upcoming. >> i'm looking forward to it. >> who isn't. >> he is goings to make it interesting. will he seem folksy as he can, joe biden and will that make paul ryan seem stiffer. >> the big challenge for paul ryan is to be able to connect with voters emotionally in the same way joe biden has a capacity to do. for all the talk about biden's gaffes and he is prone to it it is he also a guy when he stands up and rally as crowd. he has them absolutely ready to be scraped off the wall with a putty knife. >> is the vice presidential deba
i like joe biden. is he a good, decent man. i think people sort of say you know what? that's just joe. you have got to love the guy for being candid and honest. i will tell you what i do love, joe leads with his heart. i give him credit for that. it's kind of refreshing in politics who see somebody who has a heart. he speaks it. you may not agree with what he said. have you got to at least accept the fact that here is a guy who truly does, i think, connect to people. i give him that. >>...
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of course, a lot of big names didn't show up to the event, joe biden, nancy pelosi, president obama. they just didn't. >> get on the reality page. i'm sorry. he sucked. he looked tired. he had trouble getting his answers out. looks like he took my million and spent it all on weed. >> mitt romney, on the other hand, seemed downright human.
of course, a lot of big names didn't show up to the event, joe biden, nancy pelosi, president obama. they just didn't. >> get on the reality page. i'm sorry. he sucked. he looked tired. he had trouble getting his answers out. looks like he took my million and spent it all on weed. >> mitt romney, on the other hand, seemed downright human.
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joe biden, given he's run for president twice, including the 2008 series, has a lot of debate experience. so it's going to be interesting, and the democrats need a little bit of a boost after what happened on wednesday. >> i hope congressman ryan comes out and says, can i call you joe? for old time's sake to start it off on a humorous note. have a great weekend. >> you, too. >> we're talking about governor romney trying to turn around a rough few weeks. he had a lot of success in the debate. president obama trying to restart after the debates perhaps capitalizing on the half-good jobs report. up next, i'll talk to the editor of politogeek.com. there's a lot going on today, and here's some things we thought you should know. a new film about the death of osama bin laden will debut on the national geographic channel. only two days before the presidential election. the movie is produced by two obama fund raisers, s.e.a.l. team 6 the raid on osama bin laden airs sunday, november 4th. darryl hannah was arrested in texas last night while protesting the construction of the keystone pipeline. she
joe biden, given he's run for president twice, including the 2008 series, has a lot of debate experience. so it's going to be interesting, and the democrats need a little bit of a boost after what happened on wednesday. >> i hope congressman ryan comes out and says, can i call you joe? for old time's sake to start it off on a humorous note. have a great weekend. >> you, too. >> we're talking about governor romney trying to turn around a rough few weeks. he had a lot of success...